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Info-Hams Digest            Thu,  3 Nov 94       Volume 94 : Issue 1187

Today's Topics:
                      Contacting the MIR. Help!
                   Contact Possible on AO-13  & CW
                        Drake TR7 Info needed
                   Experiences w/ Ameritron AL-811H
                        Maws Coad and Spelinge
                      Motorola Amateur Group????
                      new CW program: "tomorse"
            NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins (2 msgs)
                       No code Techs and CW...
                  No License to Extra Leap? (2 msgs)
                      Text Generation From Code
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Date: 31 Oct 94 02:10:40 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Contacting the MIR. Help!

Hi,

    Can anyone tell me the minimum requirement to work the MIR.
I am using a 7/8 lambda Diamond F-22 vertical mounted on roof. Also
using IC-22A on 145.550 MHz with 10watts output. Is this sufficient
to work the MIR? The last pass we tried was about 440km nearest.

    Tried for abt 50 minutes about the 3 minute window. No QRM
or obstructions but QSO either. Would appreciate any help. Would a
YAGI be necessary?

73,
RSM

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Date: 3 Nov 94 11:11:00 GMT
From: [e-mail] ("Tim BOSMA"@[SRJC/01.garfield.santarosa.edu])
Subject: Contact Possible on AO-13  & CW

Gary Coffman, KE4ZV writes:
>LA to Isreal?  That's about 160 degrees of longitude.  I don't know if
>that's possible in Oscar 13's footprint.  Maybe.

I'm just a few miles from San Franciso and IT IS POSSIBLE.
I have QSL cards for contacts through AO-13 from Israel and
one a tad further East - Bagdad !

The really great thing in both contacts was that I actually *talked*
to both hams, not the usual HF  "QSL, you're 5-9 here in California,
thanks for the contact"   contact in the middle of a howling DX pile-up.

-.-.   --.-
It's also interesting to read all the thoughts on learning the code. I
*passed*  my Novice 5 wpm from a combination of on-the-air copy, rote
memorization and many practice sending sessions.
After that - I *learned* the code the old fashioned way -
                                                      on the air contacts.

As a Volunteer Examiner,  I frequently ask folks how they learned the code -
especially for the 13/20 wpm tests.  While my observations are certainly
not scientific and probably reflect my own bias, the folks that do
best on the Code Elements are those who:
      1.  Had a lot of on the air CW contacts.     - OR -
      2.  Practiced frequently and methodically on a daily basis.  -AND-
      3.  Had a good elmer like I did (thanks John, WA6RMK)

Lest I be flamed for being one of  "those" Extras....
Many of the European hams I talk to on the amateur satellites have
no-code type licenses.   Their technical expertise puts me to shame.
IMHO   morse code should not be required, or if the regulatory folks
cannot bannish the code, they should drop it to only 10 wpm for exams.
Quickly donning yon asbestos suit, I am.....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tim J. Bosma   AB6FL       ARRL & W5YI  VE     AMSAT Area Coordinator
[e-mail]     .....     [e-mail]  .....
[phone]
The sun don't shine on the same dog's ass every afternoon.
                                                Jim "Catfish" Hunter
Opinions are my own (thank God!)

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Date: 3 Nov 1994 06:13:01 -0500
From: [e-mail] (ABLACKBELT)
Subject: Drake TR7 Info needed

Can anyone tell me the average value of a Drake tr7 and accessories. I
know nothing about these vintage radios and a friend has a setup that he
would like to sell to me at fair market price. I saw a transceiver,
antenna tuner, desk mic, and ps among other goodies. Any input would be
appreciated. What other accessories and how much go with the system?
Tnx for taking the time to respond
[e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 1994 23:55:05 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Milewski)
Subject: Experiences w/ Ameritron AL-811H

Does anyone have any personal experiences with the Ameritiron 811 series
amps? In particular I'm interested in the 811H.

A friend of mine mentioned that he's been hearing some not complimentary
reports from users.

Thanks,
Steve
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 09:53:38 +0000
From: [e-mail] ("Anthony R. Gold")
Subject: Maws Coad and Spelinge

In article <39779u$[e-mail]>
           [e-mail] "Derek Wills" writes:

> Those who proudly proclaim their NRA membership and those who make
> inflammatory homophobic postings also tend to have poor spelling and
> grammar - I think it would be too inflammatory on my part to suggest
> why this is.

I have found a that lot of biggots spell perfectly well. You'd never
guess until you press their hot buttons, and then their thinking goes
non-linear!

Found any new McNebulae recently? :-)

--

Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM / [e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 94 18:41:28 -0600
From: Bill Stranahan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Motorola Amateur Group????

 DM> Micor for packet, etc.

 DM> The mobiles tend to make nice amateur radios.  No, I don't buy them brand
 DM> new.  But there are good deals to be had if you know how to work on radios
 DM> and aren't too cheap to buy the service manual from Motorola.

 DM> ---
 DM>  * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are      *

It also helps if you're an employee.. They have an employee discount which I
haven't checked into yet..

Bill

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[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 14:05:38 -0500
From: Benjamin Cox <[e-mail]>
Subject: new CW program: "tomorse"

I've written a small program to generate Morse sound files (Sun
.au/NeXT .snd) from ASCII input.  It runs on unix (written and tested
on HP 715/50 running HP-UX A.09.03, but should be very portable).

It's available for FTP from oak.oakland.edu in directory
/pub/hamradio/unix/morse, filename tomorse.tar.gz (GNUzipped tar
file).

Following is a copy of the README file.

Enjoy!

__
Ben Cox    N9RQV/3                [e-mail]
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This is "tomorse", a program to convert ASCII input to morse code output.
Output can either be in ASCII dot-dash (.-) form, or in audio/basic form
(Sun .au/NeXT .snd, 8000 Hz sample rate, 8-bit u-law encoding).

Copyright (C) 1994 Ben Cox N9RQV/3 <[e-mail]>.

This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
(at your option) any later version.

This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
GNU General Public License for more details.

You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
Foundation, Inc., 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.

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Usage: tomorse [-s<speed>] [-c<cspeed>] [-p<pitch>] [-ascii]
   If <cspeed> exceeds <speed>, Farnsworth spacing is used.
   Speeds are given in words per minute (1-60).
   Pitch is CW tone, in Hz.
   -ascii turns off sound output.

<speed>   is the overall output speed in words per minute (default 13).
<cspeed>  is the character speed in words per minute (default 20).
          If <cspeed> is faster than <speed>, the output will use
          Farnsworth spacing.  That is, the intercharacter and
          interword spaces will be larger so that the overall
          speed is <speed> despite the faster character speed.
<pitch>   is the pitch of the CW tone, in Hz.  Default is 880 Hz.

If these options are repeated, the later option prevails (i.e., giving
"-s13 -s20" results in a speed of 20wpm).  The program will not generate
Morse faster than 60wpm.

If the "-ascii" switch is given, output is in ASCII dot-dash form.
In this mode, the pitch and speed options are ignored.

The letters A through Z, numerals and punctuation (.,?:;-/") marks
are recognized.  Prosigns AR, AS, KN and SK are available:
   * AR (over, end of message):             use "+" character
   * AS (wait, stand by):                   use "|" character
   * KN (go ahead, addressed station only): use ">" character
   * SK (end of contact):                   use "~" character

Reference for Morse code was "The ARRL Operating Manual", Fourth Edition,
1991, ISBN 0-87259-032-1.  If you don't have this book, you should get it.

Input is taken from stdin, and output appears on stdout.
If your machine supports it (mine doesn't), you can redirect this
program's output directly to your audio device.  Otherwise,
save the output in a file and play it later.

Example usage:

    echo -n "73 de n9rqv/3" | tomorse > n9rqv-3.au
    send_sound n9rqv-3.au

    echo -n "can you copy this fast?" | tomorse -s40 > fast.au
    send_sound fast.au

I wrote this program to help myself study for the 1B 13wpm and 1C 20wpm
exams.  I hope you can use it too.  If you have suggestions, send them
to me at <[e-mail]>; if I make another version, I may include your
suggestion.


73,

Ben Cox N9RQV/3
[e-mail]

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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:50:23 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Wolf)
Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins

Dave Horsfall ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In article <[e-mail]>,
:     [e-mail] (Steve Wolf) writes:
:
: | All bulletins are broadcasting.  They are sent in many directions.  When be
: | forwarded, the receiving station did not ask for them.  The sending station
: | has no expectation that the receiving BBS will read or reply to them.
:
: Dunno about your neck of the woods, mate, but here down under the sender
: presents a brief list of bulletins, and the receiver is invited to
: accept or reject them...

When being forwarded?  Really?  How does that work?  I can understand the
user being queried but as the quote says, we are talking about forwarding.

73,
Steve

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Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:48:45 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Hank Oredson)
Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Steve Wolf) writes:
|> Hank Oredson ([e-mail]) wrote:
|> :
|> : Steve,
|> :
|> : sorry, but you are just plain wrong here.
|> :
|> : Please think about how things work, read part 97, and then
|> : come back and join in the discussion with some useful ideas.
|> :
|> : This horse is dead, you can stop beating it.
|> :
|> :    ...  Hank
|>
|> Is this supposed to be a form of arguement?
|>
|> Ah!  I was just plain wrong!  No wonder!
|>
|> 73,
|> Steve

Well Steve, folks have been pointing out the error in your
understanding for some time now, but you appear to ignore
what they say.  The digital BBS system does not use broadcasting,
all traffic is sent between two stations in QSO, and the
third party rules have been relaxed (starting with 85-105)
by the FCC to permit exactly the type of operation you claim
is "illegal".  It is clear to anyone who has followed the
evolution of the digital BBS system (or to anyone willing
to LISTEN to those of us who have followed that evolution)
that the FCC has changed the rules in response to the desires
of the majority of the ham population.

Your claims of "illegal" operation are simply bogus.

Beating this dead horse does nothing to move ham radio
forward, but simply sows dissension and confusion.

Please read part 97, think about how the digital BBS network
actually works, and then contribute something positive to
the discussion.  Basing your arguments on errors in understanding
of part 97 does nobody any good.

   ...  Hank


--

Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics             Library Operations
Internet     : [e-mail]    "Parts 'R Us!"
Amateur Radio: [e-mail]

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Date: 3 Nov 94 17:40:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steven L Goldstein)
Subject: No code Techs and CW...

I think maybe a paradigm shift is in order here.

Perhaps instead of viewing CW as a way of keeping riff-raff off the HF
bands, we should view CW as a way of preserving some of the historic
aspects of the hobby.

With solid state, computer-controllable, off the shelf rigs being the
norm these days, CW is a great way of reminding us hams of "how it all
began." Technology is moving us further and further away from our roots.
I'm all for new technology and modes of operation (G-TOR, etc.). But
let's not forget how this hobby began in the first place.

So to the no-code techs who want HF priviledges, I say to  get in
touch with the great history of amateur radio. You'll probably even have
some fun while you're at it!

Steve Goldstein, KB2PWM

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Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:27:06 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Modena)
Subject: No License to Extra Leap?

In article <[e-mail]>,
Shel Darack <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Arthur Chandler ([e-mail]) wrote:
>:  Has there ever been anyone who walked into a licensing examination with
>: no license at all, passed everything, and walked out amateur extra?

>Sure, some guy walked in and did the 20 wpm cw and theory exams
>through Advanced.  It was getting late so they told him he would
>have to come back next time for the extra theory.  Which he did.

Ditto experience here as a VE:  a U.S. naturalized Swede ( now deceased )
who had been in various places (like Reunion Ils.), started with 20 wpm
and did all the theory Novice thru Advanced...simply ran out of time.

Ditto for a Russian-born op, immigrated to Canada and licensed, and now
here simply didn't have time to it all done in one session.

In both cases, they came to another session and wrote the Extra Theory.
And, need I say it, nearly perfect scores on all the exams also.  :^)

Really, the limitation is time, time, time.

73/Steve/AB4EL   [e-mail]

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Date: 2 Nov 1994 19:58:10 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Andrew C Robertson)
Subject: No License to Extra Leap?

I went in for my exams about a year or so ago, determined to regain the
General license that I'd let expire in 1982.  I was fully prepared to pass
the 13 wpm and the three theory exams, but I managed to pass the 20 on the
first go, to my great surprise (I went through those multiple choice
questions in about 15 seconds and just about fell off my chair when the
VE nodded and smiled at me after grading it).  I then proceeded to get only
one question wrong on the 3 theory tests, and the VEs were really urging
me to go on and take the last 2, but I wimped out since I hadn't even
started to look over that theory (and had nasty memories of failing 4
Advanced tests in 1978).  So I went back 2 months later and aced the
Advanced and Extra exams.  Part of me wishes I'd studied and gone for the
whole shebang in one go, but on the other hand there are still times when
I feel like a novice, and having a novice question and an Extra class
callsign can be embarrassing.

My desire to tell this story has overcome my modesty, alas.  ;)

73 de aa1hx

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Date: 1 Nov 1994 15:35:36 GMT
From: [e-mail] (George Dewar)
Subject: Text Generation From Code

A friend who belongs to the local amateur group asked me to try and locate a
computer program that would generate text from Morse code. I am not a "ham"
but have worked with this fine group in the sport of car ralling. Maybe
someday. Thanks in advance.

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Date: 3 Nov 1994 06:15:30 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Milewski)

References<[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>, <395qpl$[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: $5 or $6 for VE's?  Think again...

In article <395qpl$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott
Richard Rosenfeld) wrote:

> >Maybe the VE's just wanted him to come back so they could get another
> >$5 or $6 for another testing session.
> >

I have been a VE in Eugene, OR for about 3 years. I commute over 60 miles
round trip to work the sessions and have never received anything... I
repeat... anything from the fees charged.

Every cent of the fees we receive goes back into the VE effort. For
example, with the small portion of the fee that stays with the local VE
team, we bought a mixer with individual headsets and volume controls for CW
tests, etc.

In the last year and a half we changed our policy of administering same day
re-tests so that it is no longer allowed. Not because we wanted to get more
money out of an applicant but because the mountains of paperwork and time
expended were less efficiently handled with same day retesting.

AA7FL

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Date: 30 Oct 1994 18:35:08 GMT
From: [e-mail]

References<38jrgg$[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>, <38v7pf$[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Questions on this and that

In article <38v7pf$[e-mail]>,
Bill Sohl  Budd Lake <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>This (the shave & a haircut story) sounds like pure myth to me.
>Anyone have any actual references (i.e. QST articles/story) to
>back up this claim?  Not meant as a flame, just want to
>validate this story.

Hi Bill, I can tell it like it was in the early 50's when I was a Novice
(WN5DXP). The shave-and-a-haircut...six-bits thing was not used in place
of a CQ. It was used only at the very end of a CW QSO after both stations
had signed their 73's. It went like this:

Station#1: ... 73 73 shave-and-a-haircut

Station#2: six-bits  shave-and-a-haircut

Station#1: six-bits

Over the years the shave-and-a-haircut part has been dropped and only the
six-bits part remains. But in the early 50's, the majority of Novices signed
as Stations 1 & 2 above. I've never heard shave-and-a-haircut used in place
of CQ but I was inactive on CW from the mid-50's to the mid-80's.

--
73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC   (All my own personal fuzzy logic, not Intel's)

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